Cypherpunks list - Exporting crypto from Japan : Was Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

Ito: By the way, the chip was not "withdrawn from the market." MITI has not approved its export. The imporant point is, a recent regulation called the "Gyousei Tetsuzuki Hou" (translates roughly as, "ministry administrative law/guidelines") makes it illegal for a ministry to regulate or restrict an activity without a clear and easy to understand process and documentation. MITI's current method of "case-by-case" export permission could technically be viewed as a breach of this law/regulation. Also, the "Gyousei Tetsuzuki Hou" has time limits for ministries to respond to requests. I have informed RSA that they could take MITI to court on this one, but as far as I know, they haven't. So, yes, Japanese stooges were involved, but companies such as RSA haven't taken advantage of their legal position in pushing the export of their products from Japan.

Cypherpunks list - Re: [cpe:4284] Re: Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

Ito: True Tim, but we are working on ways of getting it shipped.

Cypherpunks list - Re: Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

May: No. But close. Joichi Ito's keyboard is having that stuck key problem again. What he meant to type was:

"nsa nsa nsa nsa nsa..."

Which explains why that Japanese-produced RSA chip was suddenly withdrawn from the market shortly after Jim Bidzos held it up in fron of Congress as an example of how foolish the U.S. export laws are. The Japanese stooges were ordered by their masters in Washington to conform to U.S. policy.

Cypherpunks list - Re: Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

Anonymous: Is that Japanese for "Wassenaar"?

Cypherpunks list - Re: Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

Ito: Actually, cypherpunks-j is not connected to the CDR lists. I have made a local distribution of the cypherpunks list called cypherpunks-e, but there currently only 2 subscribers. I wonder why... ;-P

Cypherpunks-j and the meetings in Tokyo are focused more on writing code and less on stroking and beating each other.

We were going to call the list something else, but Eric Hughes attended one of our meetings and convinced us to call ourselves cypherpunks... maybe that was a stupid decision.

But, I suppose chaos is good. For you and for us. It's always nice to be reminded that racisms in the US is still alive and active. Sometime I forget and almost identify with you folks.

Oh and by the way:

Article 21 of the Constitution of Japan

Freedom of assembly and association as well as speech, press and all other forms of expression are guaranteed. 2) No censorship shall be maintained, nor shall the secrecy of any means of communication be violated. 

"nya nya na nya nya..." 

Cypherpunks list - Re: Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

TruthMonger: I tried to tell my fellow CypherPunks that it was a mistake to include that racist, white supremacist cypherpunks-j list in with the other CDR lists, but they still let those slant-eyed white supremacists join our Mary band, skirts and all.

Cypherpunks list - Re: Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

May: If you don't like my views, use your filters.

Or set up Yet Another Personal List (like those set up by Perry, Lewis, Declan, Bob, Nick, and others). Then you can exclude me from your YAPL. The Cypherpunks list is, unlike these YAPLs, uncensored, unfiltered at the source, and open to any and all subscribers.

I call em as I see em when it comes to our Japanese (in name, as he may actually not be Japanese, given his "hotmail" account) who sends us his "send me money I send you Misty code" crap.

Cypherpunks list - Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

Anonymous: This illustrates what a liability the poster has become to the cypherpunks. The group is becoming just another militia front, identified with racism and white supremacy, applauding violent murder of government agents, one step from applauding the Oklahoma killings.  Its original purpose all but forgotten, the list has died, poisoned by the hatred flowing from its leader.

Cypherpunks list - Re: about RC4

May: It am developed.

You go back where you came. You go back hotmail. We tired your stupid questions on RC4 and your Misty posts.

Sayonara!

(And they wonder why we kicked Japan's butt.)

--Tim May

Cypherpunks list - about RC4

From: "Nobuki Nakatuji" <bd1011@hotmail.com>

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:53:09 +0800

To: cypherpunks@toad.com

Subject: about RC4

Message-ID: <19971113053703.15152.qmail@hotmail.com>

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There are RC4 sourcecode in ftp.replay.com.

but, Is it  same RC4 developed RSADSI ?